I am, as I think you are, a Doctor in Natural Medicine. I work and live in Barcelona, Spain, and I decided to contact both you and Dr. Kossovskaya because I cannot find any knowledgeable professionals who can give me an answer to my questions anywhere in the world.

So, if you don’t mind it, here I go.

I’ve been reading a lot  about Dove, (which seems to be a sort of cross breed between Scenar and Cosmodic),Acuscen, Scenar and Cosmodic EX735Ag Modific. But right now I’m a bit confused . It seems to me that:

1. Both DOVE and Acuscen Auto are very similar in both functioning and effects, aren’t they? Which one should I go for? And that,

2. Acuscen Pro+ and the regular Ritm Scenar devices are very similar as well, aren’t they?

Then to add more confusion to the equation we have Cosmodic devices which seem to take the whole thing a few steps ahead since they combine both Scenar and Cosmodic technologies.

So, as I understand it, it would suffice to have a Cosmodic EX735Ag Modific device to cover the whole spectrum of diseases, but I read that Dr. Rob Esser said that Scenar devices have their own place in this world and that we can actually use both, Scenar and Cosmodic, separately. But again, aren’t Cosmodic/Modific devices a combination of both technologies, so that we can, (or the machine can), choose the most appropriate application.

I will sincerely appreciate it if you throw some light into this maze of information. I’m  considering purchasing one or more devices from you but I am quite hesitant between purchasing either an Acuscen Pro+ or a Dove ,or a RITM SCENAR, or a Cosmodic EX735Ag Modific or more than one unit. I know that Dr. Kossovskaya had her own preferences about the Acuscen Pro+, but how about the rest.

Thanks in advance for your kind answer.

Kindest regards,

Jaume Riera

Hi Jaume,

Yes It can be a maze out there, and since you write English brilliantly, giving you a link of presentation that Dr. Irina gave on “how to choose your SCENAR device”.

And will bottom line some answers for you.

AcuSCEN and RITM are first generation devices. They do not listen as well as the second generation devices like DOVE, and LET Medical devices like C-DOVE, 715, EX735ag. They are like Black and White TV and the new generation devices are like Color TVs and new EX735ag is like most advanced plasma flat screened TV in the world.

The AcuSCEN and RITM are single channel devices – they are more like drum beating. Drums wake you up, and it takes a accomplished musician to make drums put you to sleep. Hence it takes lots of training and experience to make these devices do amazing things like regenerations without scaring that we see with the COSMODIC devices. My first device was an AcuSCEN pro by the way, and sold it for one of the first 715 made, fours years ago and never looked back.

DOVE is the Second generation Single Channel device –

Since the DOVE listens like the more expensive COSMODIC devices it drum set plays softer and is more calming at times. And there are times when we need the wake up signal…. Or pushing signal.

COSMODIC is 46 Channels of feedback and Signaling – they include a whole range of instruments that will sedate as well as wake you up but it wakes the body up in a way which is not overwhelming like drums tend to be.

Since the first generation devices  do not listen well, you the practitioner need to know how to listen and help make their signals work the best on clients. This takes a long time to master and for self treatment are not so great devices at all.

When your device listens better it now is easier to use and can help take Self Treatment to a whole new wonderfully effective level.

COMSODIC is like coaching… listens well and responds well to the body without overwhelming it.

Click here for more info on COSMODIC

Now EX735 has it ALL… it does COSMODIC better than any device, Listens better, and even allows the body to decide it needs the SCENAR single channel signal.

Since it listens well, and even lead the body to heal fast like the best coach in the world. See www.ex735.com for more info here.

So does that help? Maybe a little?

Cheers,

Doc David Gawain

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I am again interested in and have a question on the 660 nm laser probe for the Q1000. The 660 nm laser probe features a 50 mW ‘red laser’ diode with a power output of 30 mW. Is it my understanding that the 30mW power output is the limiting factor in the use of this probe, and that the joules of work produced would use the 30 mW power output in the joules equation? What is the reason other than full disclosure, the reason for mentioning the 50 mW red laser diode? Where does the 50 mW red laser diode fit into the process? If the power output could be raised to 50mW, that would ulilize the full capacity of the red laser diode, and if raised to 60mW power output,what is the result? Not that I would want to do that, but for clarity of the use of this instrument.

Also, how safe is this laser to use inside the mouth on tissues of the oral and nasal pharynx using a dental mirror to reflect the light?

Thank you,

Alex Baumer DMD

Alex,

So many questions … and luckily there are easy answers.

To sum up if you want the life of a laser diode to last a lifetime —- do not use it, at its Wattage rating.  The 50Mw 660 laser diode is only being used for 30Mw or 6.6 joules of energy in 3 minutes will last longer then a 30Mw Laser Diode being used at its full Wattage.

When a laser diode is used to it full capacity it is like the full throttle on a car being on all the time there is no breathing room but when you use less of the wattage or horsepower,  then it lasts longer than full throttle. It is all about Duty Cycles and its typically cheaper to purchase the 30 Mw laser diode initially but not over the whole duty cycle of the Laser being used.

Since we are the only company that I know that has a LIFETIME warranty for one payment upfront $200 per laser) … these Lasers are built to LAST.

Same with the 808 enhancer where it’s a 500 Mw Laser diode being under utilized to last a lifetime.

When a laser diode does not get used to it full wattage range it runs much cooler and with longer Life.

For your other question, If a 50 Mw Laser diode current gets exceeded to 70 Mw it burns out like light bulb that got too hot and typically quickly…

These Enhancers were built to be used in the Mouth…by a Dentist and with the Quartz Tip I believe they are the best deal on the planet…

No worries that I am aware of with reflected light off the mirror… main reason is because these laser are not Focused beams … the beam is not focused into a pin light which would be a problem if used in mouth with mirror…. And you get it reflected into your eyes or someone else’s.

Laser diodes need a mirror system before it comes out of the aperture to focus the beam …. These lasers do not have focusing mirrors and one of the reason why we do not use any goggles with these lasers…. The beam is so spread out that by the time it gets to the eyes the beam is larger than the eye and with that dispersal pattern no harm can be done.

We place the 808 and 660 usually right on the area being treated… so there is no need to focus the beam unless you want to smoke the hairs off of the arm or face like a cutting laser can do… These lasers are safe for dental usage for patient and practitioner/assistants using them.

Does that help Alex?

Now are you ready for my dental miracle that occurred about 3 weeks ago in Mexico?

I had a much bigger infection cavity under one of my filling that was cracked then I thought… I got an emergency appointment with one of Dr. Hal Huggins DDS students in Porte Vallarta MEX. The infection went down to the Pulp… typically painful beyond belief and always a root canal… well “no root canals for ME…”

I Used the 808 and 660 enhancer to reduce the inflammation that would be occurring and help with the pain of the operation. I had used the equipment before on myself with no discomfort but never anything down to the pulp. I had NO pain … No Discomfort and the Dentist and assistant could not believe it… they packed it a special way and filled with a glass filling which hardened and they were impressed how little bleeding occurred during the whole procedure.

He gave me a 50 50 chance to keep the root and now after 30 days NO WORRIES NO PROBLEMS…

I of course used the most true SCENAR signal device on the planet called the DOVE… see www.truescenar.com for more info if you would like. Total cost with this DDS in Mexico was $50.00 USD — no way anyone in USA would spend the 35 minutes for all he did for this price.

I have been using the Scenar and Lasers on it every other day and it feels great…. I am Now ready for a permanent crown with bio compatible material and to go back to Mexico and sell this DDS a laser system… and get the crown and more teeth done.

Incredible and WORTH it….

So Alex the Laser system of Q1000, with 660 enhancer and 808 enhancer I believe is the best tool kit that a Dentist can purchase for the price and the incredible wide range of uses for these devices. Sure you can purchase cheaper and much more expensive Single Wavelength Laser systems, but not the system of Resonating and Stimulating Soft Lasers with 7 different Wavelengths in one package.

And check out these pictures of LASER/SCENAR fusion http://www.gardenwithin.net/testimonial.html, that happened right here in Gilroy… and treatment was done by a lay person and not a licensed health care practitioner… actually was done by person in an area Gilroy Church to help one of the people in the church who was burned. AWESOME and simple….

http://www.gardenwithin.net/testimonial.html

So let me know how I can be of service and now also have a special deal for our new laser clients…

3 hours of Soft Laser Training allowance for a purchase of Q1000 and 1 hour for the purchase of each enhancer.  We now have a new 1.5 hour training DVD that is excellent in its simplicity and deep training insights available.  We are the only company that does Soft Laser/Scenar fusion training….

So much has changed since I saw you over 18 months ago…

Keep in touch,

David Gawain, Doctor of Natural Medicine

Dr. David’s email response is highlighted in blue text, with Dr. Larry Lytle responding to both (highlighted in red text).

The attachments Dr. David refers to are included in hyperlinks at the end of the conversation.

Hi Dr. David,

We have a question about the advice/information you gave us regarding using the soft laser for prolapse. Dr. Lytle says in the DVD series that the two conditions that the laser does not work on are prolapses and sleep apnea. He indicates that because the soft laser has a relaxing effect upon the muscles, and in both of these cases the problem is the lack of adequate muscle tone, it is not advisable to use the laser in these instances.

How do you see this in light of the positive experiences you have had using the soft laser for prolapse?

Thank you.
Sara

Sara,

Kudos for you being a true student and seeing ambiguities of our healing world and wanting to know the difference. I am glad that you are asking these types of questions. I believe part of what You are seeing is the difference between two artists and their views and filters in the healing world.

I hope I can shed light on your questions intelligently because without me going back to Dr. Lytle’s DVD’s directly, I am answering without the full context of what Dr. Lytle is saying. And this is not the way to give a full answer.

It is easy to ask, “Dr. So and so said this and you said that, so what gives?” And if I am answering last my ego gets to think, that I am the smarter one here. And I am not, I am sharing another viewpoint with you out of complete context and I am doing so to help clarify for you and for me. I am also forwarding this email to Dr. Lytle directly to get his impressions here and also for a dialog to happen so I can be educated also on some of the things that I may be blind to, and this is good since it is easy to have a theory or viewpoint and get settled into that position.

Looking at the Soft laser as a point and fix device and as a Mono Therapy, I see Dr. Lytle’s statements in context and making sense. This we could say is the short form, and the longer form there is much more grey area and color where other contexts are important to share and understand. I believe you are asking for the long form answer since you have done so before, so here goes. Static learning systems like DVD usually do not allow the long form for questions like yours.

I agree that just learning from a DVD eliminates the opportunity for questions and clarification. Very few things in this world are only caused by one thing nor can they be treated by one thing.

Dr. Lytle being an innovator in resonating Laser light and a brilliant Dentist is continually looking at how Soft Laser can heal and what mechanisms they deliver. From my experience, Dr. Lytle also tends to look at Laser being delivered as a Mono Therapy and not with other modalities (other then what the other practitioner is bringing with their naked abilities).

Since everything in the universe is just light and is either a wave or a particle, I always suggest that the Q Laser be used first on all problems. I do not say it is the only therapy. Like Dr Gawain, I believe in proper breathing, A shortened breathing technique can be found in the appendix of my Low Level Laser User’s Manual and a more complete technique is found in my new book Energy Transcendence.

I on the other hand am not a brilliant Doctor in main stream medicine and have not attended Medical or Dental School. I do not do Mono Therapies anymore. I do have the designation of being a “Doctor of Natural Medicine” and having practiced the Chemistry of Breathing, Biofeedback and Soft Laser Therapy with other modalities like Educational and Emotional Kinesiology shared with bits of CRA (contact reflex analysis), Nutrition and Burt Hellingers Family Constellation work and more.

One does not have to be a doctor to be brilliant. In fact many doctors of all professions are educated in narrow views, therefore have blinders on

You can say in the Traditional Medical model; I am not a real Doctor. I love to catalyze what is available and create new paradigm where one and one is not two but 1 plus 1 is now 11( Eleven) or more. I love for my clients to get their own answers and be one of the stepping stones on the way to their health and well being. I am a real Doctor in the context of teaching. A Doctor is one who educates and I am now stepping up to the plate in that capacity with new opportunities to teach through the internet and now through the Transformation Health Coaching Diploma program. And I thank Dr. Lytle for helping me with the bridge of Light.

Doctor does mean to teach. That is why we address PhD teachers as doctor – real doctors of any profession should teach first and treat second for all things except emergencies.

Looking through the eyes of mono Laser therapy then what Dr. Lytle is saying with Prolapses makes perfect sense when attempting healing only through the mechanisms of light. When a larger view is seen as Soft Laser is part of package to assist, then Soft Laser is a wonderful part of the solution and not the only solution.

So here is a 6 part answer which we use and teach:

1. Use the Q1000 to give resonating energy and photons which displace carry electrons to the damaged cell membranes. Soft Laser light effect mechanisms of the body to be able to heal the receptor sites of the individual cells so they can be again receptive to communication and the intelligences of Peptides and what they offer. Some cells in the body have as many as a million receptor sides and its not hard to damage cells so no wonder so many of us have comprised systems. Its easy to see on the Gardens outside of us that communication is lacking and how is that reflecting what is going on inside of us? www.laserscenarfusion.com/aboutlaser.html.

New cellular biology evidence is replacing the receptor site teaching theory with the Nitric Oxide theory. NO is a tiny gaseous molecule that moves freely through both layers of the cell mem-“brains”and transports valuable information via the piezoelectric system throughout the crystal liquid matrix of the cellular system. The Q1000 laser increases the production of NO by 400 to 900 percent.

2. Use the SCENAR on the area and relational areas so massive amounts of healing Peptides which are produced with activating the skin with the SCENAR signal can be released by the body’s own innate system (doctor). The cells and systems can now hear better the chemical keys of Peptides and now fit into the locks of the cells and know what to do. So the cycle of healing that occurs in the body can occur again (Dr. Irina’s rusty wheel analogy works great here). Send electrical signals to the body so that Stem Cells and Unicells now know where to go and provide the magic of regeneration. COSMODIC signals with 46 channels of feedback sing the song of regeneration as well as act as a great coach giving the body small challenges to coax them to regenerate and remember the true form of life. Change the magnetic parts of the cell so that it holds the right kind of light. The newest generation of SCENAR and COSMODIC does this brilliantly without the past needed training of how to make a older generation SCENAR signal work well. SCENAR challenges the body to get well and COSMODIC sings the song of regeneration lost. When working with shoulder tears or rotator cuff issues as well as injuries which the healing process has been stopped, I have not seen the Laser alone heal the body to be as well as it was preinjury but I have seen and do see SCENAR help the body heal these conditions as strong as preinjury. SCENAR and COSMODIC effect other mechanisms of the body then just what light can do. So use all the tool not just some of them. www.laserscenarfusion.com/aboutscenar.html and www.laserscenarfusion.com/abouthealingfusion.html

I am not an expert in SCENAR or in the Solaris blanket.

3. Provide feedback to the body so that the body can see its reflection and learn from it as well as protect the body from Electrical Radiation that scrambles the body even more. Help the body accumulate it own energy and not hemorrhage light. Solaris Blanket is the simplest way we have seen to do that in our modern lifestyle. You can say that, 30 minutes of day of using this blanket helps the miracles come your way. www.laserscenarfusion.com/blankettech.html

4. Do what it takes to strengthen and challenge muscle systems and the connective tissue (Dr. Lytle uses a ROM machine (Range of Motion machine)to do this in 4 minutes per day and we are taking his lead by purchasing a ROM to stay in the best possible physical shape without spending huge time in exercise. For men/women Prolaspes you have discussed before that is challenging the PC muscles so have your client do their Kegels. See www.fastexercise.com/ for the Rom.

Moderate exercise is MANADATORY. I use the ROM 4 minutes every day to keep my muscles in tone and harmony.

5. Provide the Nutrition raw building blocks, and

6. Help with the emotional healing of what this physical condition represents for the person.

This is more important than most people think. Because our medical models in both conventional western and integrative medicine is “fear based”, this fear which many do not even realize is present blocks access to universal healing energy – see Energy Transcendence.

With the above You have a winning track to run on where regeneration is happening and the theme of the day.

How is that for the long view?

For Sleep Apnea wow you are looking at a loaded question with many different mechanisms, categories and reasons why it exists. Some people with Sleep Apnea have poor muscles tone which I believe Dr. Lytle is suggesting as a cause.

New evidence is that the Q1000 does help sleep apnea and prolapsed muscles – not by relaxing muscles but by carrying electrons to the collagen and changing it from type 3 collagen to type 1 collagen which is a firmer collagen and will not prolapse.

From my experience Sleep Apnea does not respond to the point and shoot fix with Mono Soft Laser therapy either unless we are using Auricular therapy.

Now here is a long view:

When you have a Capnometer which measures respiratory chemistry and Carbon Dioxide exchange, you get to see a much larger picture on how breathing chemistry is affected. Here the soft laser can be invaluable in helping the body reset certain reflexes which can change many breathing difficulties and certain cases of Sleep apnea. I have had the opportunity to witness the healing power of light first hand with several cases of Sleep apnea reversing quite miraculously. Its amazing what happens when you set up monitoring and feedback devices and see first hand that something changes when using Auricular therapy using the 660 enhancer. I also believe in retrospect we were looking for the miracle to occur and Soft Laser allowed us to ride the wave of light healing right into these clients.

Can you believe Taping the mouth shut with special tape (micro pore) while sleeping has proven to cure many cases of Sleep Apnea? When a person is a mouth breather their whole system is compromised. Mouth breathers basically create a chemistry where Oxygen is not attracted into the cells. Any time you see a C-PAP machine help someone with Sleep Apnea you most likely are seeing someone who also sleeps with their mouth open. The C pap machine forces them to breathe through their noses and at rate where the exhale is longer than the inhale. This allows CO2 in the form of carbonic acid to build up around the cells and this actually attracts O2 into the cells. So the Cpap machine is a god send because it forces the body to have good respiratory chemistry. Without the device patients will have Low CO2, which then means low O2 exchange into the cells. So what does the body do to survive? Stop breathing… or Apnea….

So Sleep apnea is a mechanism that that the body uses to stay alive because if CO2 gets low enough the organism will die. Interesting huh?

Most breathing issues can actually be called over breathing not under breathing, Meaning breathing is done too much which creates the too low CO2 or the correct medical term “Hypocapnia”. See an article about this which I attached for more info about this.

Now Taping the mouth shut with that special tape which allows the person to still breathe through the mouth when it is taped (duct tape does not cut it unless you want to really increase the blood pressure and more of the one duct taped) demands the exhale be equal or more than the inhale. This sets up correct proper breathing chemistry and Sleep Apnea symptoms can disappear. It takes awhile for the body to create the pattern without biofeedback but it works. Kiss them goodnight and then tape their mouth shut. And it is Fun to think about. DuPont is the makers of the tape and can be ordered through most drug stores via the pharmacy. Talk to your Breathing health care provider before using the tape though.

Most structural and organ health problems including prolapsed uterus and sleep apnea stem from imbalances in the ANS – that is when the sympathetic is over stimulated (stress and structural) and the parasympathetic (internal organ and smooth muscles) are under stimulated – bad things happen – and usually are eventually diagnosed as _______?????? The ANS balance and blood flow to and from the brain is regulated by the position of the mandible in relationship to the maxilla. Vertical over closure causes the 68 pair of dental muscles to tighten and send a faulty proprioceptive signal to the brain which imbalances the ANS plus it reduces blood flow to the brain which in turn reduces essential oxygen to the brain. And there is more. When vertical dimension is lost (for many reasons) the jaw moves up and back and BLOCKS the venous return from the brain – and more bad things happen – like ADHD and all it’s cousins, bipolar, arterial rupture and stroke and heart attach.

So to clarify, I am not a mono laser light doctor, there are multifactorial disciplines to relieve disease symptoms and allow the body to heal itself. I encourage you to review the section of my DVD which discusses what to do when laser therapy is not as good as expected or better yet attend a Healing Light Seminar.

Dr Larry Lytle.

So Sarah I bet this email is more than you bargained for when asking me your questions.

Dr. Irina and I enjoy how you and the Harvest Haven Team challenge us to be our best and really share what we know that can help. Your team is helping hundreds of people a month now and we are glad to be part of it. Your email sparked me to put on paper some transitional thoughts I have for my book that I have been writing and it time to finish this year, Called “The Gardenwithin”.

Warmest Regards,

Dr. David